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		<title>By: Book covers, revisited &#187; &#34;Self-plagiarism is style&#34;</title>
		<link>http://www.daveyp.com/blog/archives/170#comment-42863</link>
		<dc:creator>Book covers, revisited &#187; &#34;Self-plagiarism is style&#34;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 19:36:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] spotted that Tim is busy working on something that I dabbled with last [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] spotted that Tim is busy working on something that I dabbled with last [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://www.daveyp.com/blog/archives/170#comment-41508</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 15:58:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wonderful idea - I sort my own books like this - I thought it was unusual until I was sitting in the rare books room of a university library next to a distinguished manuscripts scholar.  He had ordered a book and it hadn't arrived.  He collared the assistant and pointed out that the book was easy to find as it had a red cover.  Some time later the book arrived.  Without a red cover. Instead of being grateful, the scholar observed, in dissatistisied tones 'I see, you only have the green edition'...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonderful idea - I sort my own books like this - I thought it was unusual until I was sitting in the rare books room of a university library next to a distinguished manuscripts scholar.  He had ordered a book and it hadn&#039;t arrived.  He collared the assistant and pointed out that the book was easy to find as it had a red cover.  Some time later the book arrived.  Without a red cover. Instead of being grateful, the scholar observed, in dissatistisied tones &#039;I see, you only have the green edition&#039;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Searching for books by their color . . . &#171; Turning Pages - The USCA Library Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.daveyp.com/blog/archives/170#comment-41015</link>
		<dc:creator>Searching for books by their color . . . &#171; Turning Pages - The USCA Library Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 13:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Christie   See this interesting post with a search engine that allows you to find a book by color: http://www.daveyp.com/blog/index.php/archives/170/ Note that you need to know hex values for the colors, you can see those here: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Christie   See this interesting post with a search engine that allows you to find a book by color: <a href="http://www.daveyp.com/blog/index.php/archives/170/" rel="nofollow">http://www.daveyp.com/blog/index.php/archives/170/</a> Note that you need to know hex values for the colors, you can see those here: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Pattern</title>
		<link>http://www.daveyp.com/blog/archives/170#comment-39813</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Pattern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 12:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Venus -- if you sign up to Amazon Web Services, then you can get details about a specific book as an XML page:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aws/landing.html

The XML page can include things like: links to a book cover scan; reviews; book suggestions; etc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Venus &#8212; if you sign up to Amazon Web Services, then you can get details about a specific book as an XML page:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/aws/landing.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/gp/aws/landing.html</a></p>
<p>The XML page can include things like: links to a book cover scan; reviews; book suggestions; etc</p>
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		<title>By: Venus Goody</title>
		<link>http://www.daveyp.com/blog/archives/170#comment-39809</link>
		<dc:creator>Venus Goody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 05:22:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an excellent work.

can I access the catalogued iformation of a particular book from the Amazon's book collection, when I search on its ISBN No.? 

Please guide,

Venus</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an excellent work.</p>
<p>can I access the catalogued iformation of a particular book from the Amazon&#039;s book collection, when I search on its ISBN No.? </p>
<p>Please guide,</p>
<p>Venus</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Pattern</title>
		<link>http://www.daveyp.com/blog/archives/170#comment-36567</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Pattern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 20:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>heh heh -- as Marguerite Duras once said, "The best way to fill time is to waste it."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>heh heh &#8212; as Marguerite Duras once said, &#034;The best way to fill time is to waste it.&#034;</p>
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		<title>By: phrebh</title>
		<link>http://www.daveyp.com/blog/archives/170#comment-36558</link>
		<dc:creator>phrebh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 14:05:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is great! I mean, the time and effort that must have gone into an essentially useless, although really cool, tool really  speaks to my own, vast wastes of time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is great! I mean, the time and effort that must have gone into an essentially useless, although really cool, tool really  speaks to my own, vast wastes of time.</p>
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		<title>By: Edward Vielmetti</title>
		<link>http://www.daveyp.com/blog/archives/170#comment-34972</link>
		<dc:creator>Edward Vielmetti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 06:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One more color space to consider:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L*a*b

which looks like it might shelve the books more nicely - the math to convert from RGB to LAB is a bit tricker but still looks straightforward once you make an assumption or two.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more color space to consider:</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L</a>*a*b</p>
<p>which looks like it might shelve the books more nicely - the math to convert from RGB to LAB is a bit tricker but still looks straightforward once you make an assumption or two.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Pattern</title>
		<link>http://www.daveyp.com/blog/archives/170#comment-34893</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Pattern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 08:55:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good question!  I did look at this when I was playing around with colours, but couldn't find an easy way of doing it.  

I've added an extra parameter to the script so that it will return the HSL value(s) rather than the RGB value(s) -- just add the following to any of the URLs:

...&#038;colorspace=HSL

e.g.:

&lt;a href="http://library.hud.ac.uk/balti/bookcolor.pl?isbn=0545010225&#038;colorspace=HSL" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://library.hud.ac.uk/balti/bookcolor.pl?isbn=0545010225&#038;colorspace=HSL&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good question!  I did look at this when I was playing around with colours, but couldn&#039;t find an easy way of doing it.  </p>
<p>I&#039;ve added an extra parameter to the script so that it will return the HSL value(s) rather than the RGB value(s) &#8212; just add the following to any of the URLs:</p>
<p>&#8230;&#038;colorspace=HSL</p>
<p>e.g.:</p>
<p><a href="http://library.hud.ac.uk/balti/bookcolor.pl?isbn=0545010225&#038;colorspace=HSL" rel="nofollow">http://library.hud.ac.uk/balti/bookcolor.pl?isbn=0545010225&#038;colorspace=HSL</a></p>
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		<title>By: Edward Vielmetti</title>
		<link>http://www.daveyp.com/blog/archives/170#comment-34892</link>
		<dc:creator>Edward Vielmetti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 05:31:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK Dave, I got it working here - wrapped it in a script at 

http://www.superpatron.com/wall-of-books/book-color.sh

which you can run as
% book-color.sh 0545010225
A47145

It doesn't do anything more than the minimum, just wraps the interface you have in a script.

The next bit I'm stuck on is more color theory than anything else.  How do you sort RGB values into a rainbow?   Obviously sorting on the hex code gives you the wrong answer (it sorts by % red), and there's some color calculus to arrange those numbers along a pleasing line, but my initial searches stumped me.  I found formulas for "hue" and "luminance" and will try those.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK Dave, I got it working here - wrapped it in a script at </p>
<p><a href="http://www.superpatron.com/wall-of-books/book-color.sh" rel="nofollow">http://www.superpatron.com/wall-of-books/book-color.sh</a></p>
<p>which you can run as<br />
% book-color.sh 0545010225<br />
A47145</p>
<p>It doesn&#039;t do anything more than the minimum, just wraps the interface you have in a script.</p>
<p>The next bit I&#039;m stuck on is more color theory than anything else.  How do you sort RGB values into a rainbow?   Obviously sorting on the hex code gives you the wrong answer (it sorts by % red), and there&#039;s some color calculus to arrange those numbers along a pleasing line, but my initial searches stumped me.  I found formulas for &#034;hue&#034; and &#034;luminance&#034; and will try those.</p>
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