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	<title>Comments on: Southampton &#8211; day one</title>
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		<title>By: Owen Stephens</title>
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		<dc:creator>Owen Stephens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 11:11:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For many years I&#039;ve also been nervous about SaaS models, and have preferred to have a locally hosted solution.

However, over the last 12 months or so, I have started to change my mind about this.

Clearly SaaS doesn&#039;t mean no APIs, and these would be essential in many areas. There could also be data protection issues with some data being held by 3rd parties (and other legal issues - for example if data was being held in a different country etc.)

However, I believe that we are starting to see a change. I asked a question about University Libraries using a hosted model for SFX at a recent meeting, and was suprised to find that Cambridge have opted for this model.

I&#039;d be very interested in trying a SaaS in a low risk arena for the library, and seeing how it worked.

It looks like several vendors are offering their next gen search products as SaaS. We saw III yesterday and talked about this, but in this case the current lack of API to flexibly reuse data was offputting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For many years I&#039;ve also been nervous about SaaS models, and have preferred to have a locally hosted solution.</p>
<p>However, over the last 12 months or so, I have started to change my mind about this.</p>
<p>Clearly SaaS doesn&#039;t mean no APIs, and these would be essential in many areas. There could also be data protection issues with some data being held by 3rd parties (and other legal issues &#8211; for example if data was being held in a different country etc.)</p>
<p>However, I believe that we are starting to see a change. I asked a question about University Libraries using a hosted model for SFX at a recent meeting, and was suprised to find that Cambridge have opted for this model.</p>
<p>I&#039;d be very interested in trying a SaaS in a low risk arena for the library, and seeing how it worked.</p>
<p>It looks like several vendors are offering their next gen search products as SaaS. We saw III yesterday and talked about this, but in this case the current lack of API to flexibly reuse data was offputting.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Pattern</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Pattern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 21:04:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow -- you&#039;re right!  All those times I&#039;ve used a Unicorn OPAC and never noticed it :-D  So, why have they gone out of their way to make it not look like a link?

Lorcan -- I was thinking about asking that question, but the Enterprise session was running waaay over time and lunch was awaiting!

The first Enterprise release will be SaaS only, and it would certainly make sense for SD to aggregate user supplied reviews, comments, tags, etc.  Whether or not they&#039;ve considered that, I don&#039;t know.

My main concern with SaaS (which was echoed by every academic library admin I spoke to) is that it divorces you from your data and limits your ability to customise the product in ways SD either don&#039;t want you to (for support reasons) or in ways they haven&#039;t thought of.  We&#039;ve investigate SaaS style models for some of the other systems at Huddersfield (e.g. the VLE) and rejected it.

I don&#039;t remember Talin mentioning that SaaS Enterprise would have an API.  Without that, how do you even start to integrate a SaaS system with your internal systems (e.g. finance, student records, etc)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow &#8212; you&#039;re right!  All those times I&#039;ve used a Unicorn OPAC and never noticed it <img src='http://www.daveyp.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' />   So, why have they gone out of their way to make it not look like a link?</p>
<p>Lorcan &#8212; I was thinking about asking that question, but the Enterprise session was running waaay over time and lunch was awaiting!</p>
<p>The first Enterprise release will be SaaS only, and it would certainly make sense for SD to aggregate user supplied reviews, comments, tags, etc.  Whether or not they&#039;ve considered that, I don&#039;t know.</p>
<p>My main concern with SaaS (which was echoed by every academic library admin I spoke to) is that it divorces you from your data and limits your ability to customise the product in ways SD either don&#039;t want you to (for support reasons) or in ways they haven&#039;t thought of.  We&#039;ve investigate SaaS style models for some of the other systems at Huddersfield (e.g. the VLE) and rejected it.</p>
<p>I don&#039;t remember Talin mentioning that SaaS Enterprise would have an API.  Without that, how do you even start to integrate a SaaS system with your internal systems (e.g. finance, student records, etc)?</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 07:30:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This intrigued me, a title not linking to the results.  And I don&#039;t think it&#039;s true on iBistro/iLink, although admittedly the title doesn&#039;t look hyperlinked in the traditional blue underlined way.

Try https://ibistro.cambridgeshire.gov.uk or http://ilink.gcal.ac.uk/ the book title does the same thing as the Details button.

Subtle, but functional?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This intrigued me, a title not linking to the results.  And I don&#039;t think it&#039;s true on iBistro/iLink, although admittedly the title doesn&#039;t look hyperlinked in the traditional blue underlined way.</p>
<p>Try <a href="https://ibistro.cambridgeshire.gov.uk" rel="nofollow">https://ibistro.cambridgeshire.gov.uk</a> or <a href="http://ilink.gcal.ac.uk/" rel="nofollow">http://ilink.gcal.ac.uk/</a> the book title does the same thing as the Details button.</p>
<p>Subtle, but functional?</p>
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		<title>By: Lorcan Dempsey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lorcan Dempsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 01:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that there is a lot of potential in the SaaS model.

I am interested to know whether there is any attempt here to build higher level services over the &#039;serviced&#039; instances. For example, to aggregate circulation data for recommendation along the lines you have done locally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that there is a lot of potential in the SaaS model.</p>
<p>I am interested to know whether there is any attempt here to build higher level services over the &#039;serviced&#039; instances. For example, to aggregate circulation data for recommendation along the lines you have done locally.</p>
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