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		<title>By: Bob Brake</title>
		<link>http://www.daveyp.com/blog/archives/467/comment-page-1#comment-1158</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Brake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 15:41:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We seem to having the same problem,  Using Horizon 7.4 on Vista that is... we can&#039;t seem to get any info on how to properly install the client on a vista pc. We have used the following methods but still have issues with &quot;LbShrMem.Initialize: can not create(or access) shared memory&quot; fatal horizon errors.
•	Install SQLEXPR32.EXE 
•	Install SQLServer2005_SSMSEE.MSI 
•	Launch from Programs Menu &quot;Sql Server Configuration Manager&quot; found ...\Start Menu\Programs\Microsoft SQL Server 2005\Configuration Tools
•	 In &quot;Sql Server Configuration Manager&quot;  Under Sql Native Client Configuration, Choose Client Aliases :Rick Click ..New Alias 
Alias Name &gt; Horizon
Port No &gt; 5000
Protocol &gt; TCP/IP
Server&gt; ***.***.***.***         Apply and OK
•	Install Java ( j2re142.exe) Say No to restart
•	Install Horizon733.exe with Administrator Options,Say No to restart
•	Once Installed , Install HMR74.exe, don&#039;t launch Horizon
•	Copy ntwdblib.dll to windows\system32 folder (downloaded from web)
•	Restart PC 

That&#039;s what we do ... but we still have occasional Fatal errors. We have tried setting it the compatibility mode to XP sp2 , changed perms to full control for all users , etc.

Have you folks found out anymore info from Sirsi that might help?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We seem to having the same problem,  Using Horizon 7.4 on Vista that is&#8230; we can&#039;t seem to get any info on how to properly install the client on a vista pc. We have used the following methods but still have issues with &#034;LbShrMem.Initialize: can not create(or access) shared memory&#034; fatal horizon errors.<br />
•	Install SQLEXPR32.EXE<br />
•	Install SQLServer2005_SSMSEE.MSI<br />
•	Launch from Programs Menu &#034;Sql Server Configuration Manager&#034; found &#8230;\Start Menu\Programs\Microsoft SQL Server 2005\Configuration Tools<br />
•	 In &#034;Sql Server Configuration Manager&#034;  Under Sql Native Client Configuration, Choose Client Aliases :Rick Click ..New Alias<br />
Alias Name &gt; Horizon<br />
Port No &gt; 5000<br />
Protocol &gt; TCP/IP<br />
Server&gt; ***.***.***.***         Apply and OK<br />
•	Install Java ( j2re142.exe) Say No to restart<br />
•	Install Horizon733.exe with Administrator Options,Say No to restart<br />
•	Once Installed , Install HMR74.exe, don&#039;t launch Horizon<br />
•	Copy ntwdblib.dll to windows\system32 folder (downloaded from web)<br />
•	Restart PC </p>
<p>That&#039;s what we do &#8230; but we still have occasional Fatal errors. We have tried setting it the compatibility mode to XP sp2 , changed perms to full control for all users , etc.</p>
<p>Have you folks found out anymore info from Sirsi that might help?</p>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
		<link>http://www.daveyp.com/blog/archives/467/comment-page-1#comment-824</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 19:07:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, let&#039;s face it, Dave, &quot;worldwide&quot; just doesn&#039;t mean the United Kingdom any more in SirsiDynix&#039;s term (nor Canada, nor Australia, nor Chile, nor New Zealand, nor Aruba, etc.)  The new executives no nothing of the history of the strengths of the company (and the customers) on a global scale. All those caveats that they are &quot;listening&quot; to their customers simply go ignored in the modern age.  Horizon customers just aren&#039;t part of that world anymore.  Nor are Dynix Classic customers.  We are not the world.  We don&#039;t exist.

Say, anyone know how Vista&#039;s stock is doing these days?

Sadly, the demise of support in *all* areas outside the continental United States should be taken with increasing alarm by all US-centric customers.  Those with a longer memory than most of the new Vista and SirsiDynix executives know that the strength of the customer base was even more formidable, informatitve, and even more enjoyable, with a healthy and cooperative international and globalized customer base.

Long live Dynix.  Long live Horizon.  Cheers, Dave!  -- q</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, let&#039;s face it, Dave, &#034;worldwide&#034; just doesn&#039;t mean the United Kingdom any more in SirsiDynix&#039;s term (nor Canada, nor Australia, nor Chile, nor New Zealand, nor Aruba, etc.)  The new executives no nothing of the history of the strengths of the company (and the customers) on a global scale. All those caveats that they are &#034;listening&#034; to their customers simply go ignored in the modern age.  Horizon customers just aren&#039;t part of that world anymore.  Nor are Dynix Classic customers.  We are not the world.  We don&#039;t exist.</p>
<p>Say, anyone know how Vista&#039;s stock is doing these days?</p>
<p>Sadly, the demise of support in *all* areas outside the continental United States should be taken with increasing alarm by all US-centric customers.  Those with a longer memory than most of the new Vista and SirsiDynix executives know that the strength of the customer base was even more formidable, informatitve, and even more enjoyable, with a healthy and cooperative international and globalized customer base.</p>
<p>Long live Dynix.  Long live Horizon.  Cheers, Dave!  &#8212; q</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Pattern</title>
		<link>http://www.daveyp.com/blog/archives/467/comment-page-1#comment-823</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Pattern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 07:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many thanks for the response, Ed.

Unfortunately, the UK office has already made it clear that their primary focus is Symphony and that they are unable/unwilling to provide any sizeable development resources for non-Unicorn/Symphony customers.

I think it&#039;s also fair to say that the Horizon customers, via the various European User Groups, have raised their concerns on many occasions and there has been little or no progress (in fact, an earlier initial decision to provide localised versions of 7.4.2 for Europe appears to have been reversed by senior SD management prior to the conference in Southampton).

I would welcome the opportunity to raise my concerns again, but sadly the company seems unwilling to send any of its staff to the meetings of our local regional user group.  Contact with our Account Manager (who appears to be far too overstretched with accounts) is minimal.  From memory, our contract with the company stipulates that our Account Manager must have quarterly meetings with us, but that hasn&#039;t happened since Vista EP took over the company.

In the meantime, I would gladly settle for a version of Horizon that is compatible with Windows XP SP3 and Windows Vista, and a version of HIP that I don&#039;t have to hide behind Apache mod_security to keep it from behind hacked.  At the conference in May, we were led to believe that this would happen, but (to the best of my knowledge) there has been no further communication from the company.  If progress on these issues is being made, why are customers being kept in the dark?  Small wonder that many of the emails that I&#039;ve received in the last couple of days from fellow customers have included the word &quot;abandoned&quot;.

Despite the wish of the company for their Dynix/Horizon customers to move to Symphony at the earliest opportunity, for many of us, this simply isn&#039;t feasible in the short term.

I fully appreciate the ratio of customers on customised/localised versions is small (at least compared to the large US customer base), but the revenue stream from the annual maintenance of those customers will still be sizeable figure.  A clear indication that some of that revenue will be used to provide bugfixes to customers who are unable to use the core US release and who are unable to move to Symphony straight away would be, I believe, most warmly received.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many thanks for the response, Ed.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, the UK office has already made it clear that their primary focus is Symphony and that they are unable/unwilling to provide any sizeable development resources for non-Unicorn/Symphony customers.</p>
<p>I think it&#039;s also fair to say that the Horizon customers, via the various European User Groups, have raised their concerns on many occasions and there has been little or no progress (in fact, an earlier initial decision to provide localised versions of 7.4.2 for Europe appears to have been reversed by senior SD management prior to the conference in Southampton).</p>
<p>I would welcome the opportunity to raise my concerns again, but sadly the company seems unwilling to send any of its staff to the meetings of our local regional user group.  Contact with our Account Manager (who appears to be far too overstretched with accounts) is minimal.  From memory, our contract with the company stipulates that our Account Manager must have quarterly meetings with us, but that hasn&#039;t happened since Vista EP took over the company.</p>
<p>In the meantime, I would gladly settle for a version of Horizon that is compatible with Windows XP SP3 and Windows Vista, and a version of HIP that I don&#039;t have to hide behind Apache mod_security to keep it from behind hacked.  At the conference in May, we were led to believe that this would happen, but (to the best of my knowledge) there has been no further communication from the company.  If progress on these issues is being made, why are customers being kept in the dark?  Small wonder that many of the emails that I&#039;ve received in the last couple of days from fellow customers have included the word &#034;abandoned&#034;.</p>
<p>Despite the wish of the company for their Dynix/Horizon customers to move to Symphony at the earliest opportunity, for many of us, this simply isn&#039;t feasible in the short term.</p>
<p>I fully appreciate the ratio of customers on customised/localised versions is small (at least compared to the large US customer base), but the revenue stream from the annual maintenance of those customers will still be sizeable figure.  A clear indication that some of that revenue will be used to provide bugfixes to customers who are unable to use the core US release and who are unable to move to Symphony straight away would be, I believe, most warmly received.</p>
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		<title>By: Panlibus &#187; Blog Archive &#187; SirsiDynix Frustrate UK Horizon Customers</title>
		<link>http://www.daveyp.com/blog/archives/467/comment-page-1#comment-822</link>
		<dc:creator>Panlibus &#187; Blog Archive &#187; SirsiDynix Frustrate UK Horizon Customers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 16:18:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] well known Library 2.0 proponent and SirsiDynix Horizon system manager from Huddersfield University has highlighted a contradiction with the use of the term ‘worldwide’ in a press release about Horizon [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] well known Library 2.0 proponent and SirsiDynix Horizon system manager from Huddersfield University has highlighted a contradiction with the use of the term ‘worldwide’ in a press release about Horizon [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Riding, Horizon Product Manager</title>
		<link>http://www.daveyp.com/blog/archives/467/comment-page-1#comment-821</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Riding, Horizon Product Manager</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 16:12:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave,
This release is available outside North America to those customers who have not had major alterations made to source code.  We have customers in regions all around the world that are using the standard base code and for them this is not an issue.

For those who are running local variations we have requested that individuals contact their local account manager or Help Desk to discuss their particular concerns.  In the case of customers requiring specific fixes, we have been able to backport many into their current release. Others have indicated an interest to move to Symphony.

We would encourage any customer who has specific concerns to contact their local office.

Regarding the security issues, we are working to see how we can best resolve these issues for you and I will communicate these options to you by November 15, 2008.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave,<br />
This release is available outside North America to those customers who have not had major alterations made to source code.  We have customers in regions all around the world that are using the standard base code and for them this is not an issue.</p>
<p>For those who are running local variations we have requested that individuals contact their local account manager or Help Desk to discuss their particular concerns.  In the case of customers requiring specific fixes, we have been able to backport many into their current release. Others have indicated an interest to move to Symphony.</p>
<p>We would encourage any customer who has specific concerns to contact their local office.</p>
<p>Regarding the security issues, we are working to see how we can best resolve these issues for you and I will communicate these options to you by November 15, 2008.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Pattern</title>
		<link>http://www.daveyp.com/blog/archives/467/comment-page-1#comment-820</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Pattern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 19:08:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve not, Tim.

Given that Chesham (to the best of my knowledge) has yet to formally inform their customer base about the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.librarytechnology.org/diglib-fulldisplay.pl?SID=20081009343048095&amp;RC=13497&amp;code=pr&amp;Row=1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;recent change in management&lt;/a&gt; at SDI, I would have been amazed (and pleasantly surprised) if I had heard anything.

On a slightly different subject, is anyone planning to go to the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ptfs-europe.com/index.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;PTFS event&lt;/a&gt; in London on 13th November?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;ve not, Tim.</p>
<p>Given that Chesham (to the best of my knowledge) has yet to formally inform their customer base about the <a href="http://www.librarytechnology.org/diglib-fulldisplay.pl?SID=20081009343048095&#038;RC=13497&#038;code=pr&#038;Row=1" rel="nofollow">recent change in management</a> at SDI, I would have been amazed (and pleasantly surprised) if I had heard anything.</p>
<p>On a slightly different subject, is anyone planning to go to the <a href="http://www.ptfs-europe.com/index.php" rel="nofollow">PTFS event</a> in London on 13th November?</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://www.daveyp.com/blog/archives/467/comment-page-1#comment-816</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 16:04:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have been talking about this here and I agree with Ian that it looks like they really aren&#039;t interested in the UK, or European, Horizon customer base. For instance we have had no calls or contact to find out if we have a migration path planned. Is it a case of letting us wither away and that the loss of income will be offset by the reduction in support costs? I don&#039;t supoose you had an answer yet, Dave?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have been talking about this here and I agree with Ian that it looks like they really aren&#039;t interested in the UK, or European, Horizon customer base. For instance we have had no calls or contact to find out if we have a migration path planned. Is it a case of letting us wither away and that the loss of income will be offset by the reduction in support costs? I don&#039;t supoose you had an answer yet, Dave?</p>
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		<title>By: Scribe</title>
		<link>http://www.daveyp.com/blog/archives/467/comment-page-1#comment-819</link>
		<dc:creator>Scribe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 14:18:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have obviously been watching too many US presidential debates, but SD&#039;s semantics on those press releases are very carefully crafted. They say that the functionality was demanded worldwide, and that they&#039;re offering users worldwide better service, but they never say they&#039;re offering it to LIBRARIES worldwide. Oh, SirsiDynix, you are tricksy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have obviously been watching too many US presidential debates, but SD&#039;s semantics on those press releases are very carefully crafted. They say that the functionality was demanded worldwide, and that they&#039;re offering users worldwide better service, but they never say they&#039;re offering it to LIBRARIES worldwide. Oh, SirsiDynix, you are tricksy.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 12:41:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the fact that SirsiDynix are leaving UK Horizon customers with a product that doesn&#039;t run properly on Vista or even XP SP3 says a lot. They must be aware that we can&#039;t raise the money to migrate quickly. If they aren&#039;t prepared to support us in the meantime that suggests to me that they aren&#039;t bothered about retaining our custom in the longer term.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the fact that SirsiDynix are leaving UK Horizon customers with a product that doesn&#039;t run properly on Vista or even XP SP3 says a lot. They must be aware that we can&#039;t raise the money to migrate quickly. If they aren&#039;t prepared to support us in the meantime that suggests to me that they aren&#039;t bothered about retaining our custom in the longer term.</p>
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		<title>By: Eddy Torr</title>
		<link>http://www.daveyp.com/blog/archives/467/comment-page-1#comment-814</link>
		<dc:creator>Eddy Torr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 09:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this pretty much sums up the frustration of the UK Horizon client base. As someone pointed out to me; it&#039;s probably easier for SirsiDynix to maintain one platform and quite happily watch the current crop of UK Horizon users jump ship.

The regional variartions in the code were explained to me last year by a former employee of the company. From what I gather these are less than  straightforward &#039;lumps&#039; of code which can&#039;t be patched into existing UK installations; hence why we&#039;re heading for LMS purgatory.

The recent &quot;20 reasons to migrate to Symphony&quot; post on the Mailing List, says it all really.

If Symphony is the answer, could someone  please repeat the question?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this pretty much sums up the frustration of the UK Horizon client base. As someone pointed out to me; it&#039;s probably easier for SirsiDynix to maintain one platform and quite happily watch the current crop of UK Horizon users jump ship.</p>
<p>The regional variartions in the code were explained to me last year by a former employee of the company. From what I gather these are less than  straightforward &#039;lumps&#039; of code which can&#039;t be patched into existing UK installations; hence why we&#039;re heading for LMS purgatory.</p>
<p>The recent &#034;20 reasons to migrate to Symphony&#034; post on the Mailing List, says it all really.</p>
<p>If Symphony is the answer, could someone  please repeat the question?</p>
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